Bored, went to the BMW configurator to build the new G20 3 series

"KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time" (kngt) 02/18/2019 at 12:29 • Filed to: g20 3 series, g20 330i xdrive, g20 330i, bmw 3 series, configurator, configurators, Build & Price, 2020 3 series, 2020 g20 3 series, 330i, 330i xdrive, bmw

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$51,145 for this sucker, just a mid-level trim 330i xDrive No advanced tech & safety,no Apple Car Play, no M-Sport package. Most dealer inventory generally would have the convenience package at the very least, and the premium package. Skip the premium and you’re looking at $48,345.

This means you’ll be able to pick one up for $25K as a 3 year old lease-return. 340i configurator is not up yet.

Tapas > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 02/18/2019 at 12:28

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Not a fan.

UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 02/18/2019 at 12:29

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You’re also within a few grand of a decent option S5 sportback and about ~$1500 less than a base S5 sportback. I know which I’d go with

Spanfeller is a twat > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 02/18/2019 at 12:29

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for 51,850 you can get 5 30i with metallic paint, 18in wheels, leather, and the nav package on this side of the border. But pretty basic otherwise.

or for 43,000 you could get an M140i. 

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy 02/18/2019 at 12:31

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Is that so? I haven’t checked prices recently. No question on that case if I were buying/leasing new.

But I typically buy used/CPO 3 to 5 years old and I have been seeing 335i/340i prices are lower than the equivalent S4/S5.

LJ909 > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 02/18/2019 at 12:34

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Nope. I wouldn’ t ever touch BMW at all. I’d rather a Stinger or G70 ( I think I’ m turning into Hyundai fanboy). Whats appalling is that when I built one, a Blue M Sport, a $48k, this damn thing came standard with their non leather Sensatec seating. That’ s disturbing. Damn near 50 grand and yo u have to pay nearly 2 grand extra for real leather.

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 02/18/2019 at 12:36

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Almost heaven, West Virginia

Shenandoah River

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > LJ909 02/18/2019 at 12:38

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I read on forums both the Stinger and G70 have terrible lease rates. At least you can get up to $10K off the STinger GTs collecting dust on the lots. Not many deals on G70s but then again you can get a 3.3T for the price of the 4 cylinder 330i.

I checked Bimmer post leasing thread on this 3 series. seems 3 year residual is at 50%, ouch. Those lease rates are going to be high. They have typically artificially inflated them to drive those lease numbers vs MB AUdi, but if it does depreciate at 50% vs. 55% or 60% it would be a good deal, but by then the G70s and the Stingers would also have depreciated same % or worse so you’d get more car per $. I guess Kiyundai wins this round.

UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 02/18/2019 at 12:38

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Base starts at $52,800. You don’t get MMI until the premium plus at $56k, but I didn’t tick too many boxes beyond that as it came with quite a bit at that price. So for ~5k more you get the sportback with probably a lot more options and imo a drop dead gorgeous look. I’m sure it will be a bit more at CPO but I’d say worth it.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy 02/18/2019 at 12:40

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I’d skip Audi virtual cockpit and MMI if the base system simply has Android Auto Ap ple Carplay.

Plus Sportback+ 3.0 v6 Turbo+Quattro > Sedan+ 2.0T 4 cylinder +xDrive

CompactLuxuryFan > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 02/18/2019 at 12:45

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The build sheet/ pricing guide for the M340 is out and most people on Binmerpost were cresting $70k with their builds. I was like “are you mad?!”  That’s just how it is these days. Most X3s with the big engine are also around $70k. Beginning of last generation a loaded 335 was like $55k. 

LJ909 > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 02/18/2019 at 12:47

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YES. You’d have to be a fool to lease either of them. At first I chalked it up to them being new but I don’ t think that’ s the case. Which means you should be able to get a good deal on a Stinger. But with how Kia dealers are, they’d probably try to talk you onto a Cadenza or Optima SX that’ s been sitting on their back lot than budge on a Stinger.

Not many deals on G70's either but that’ s if you could even find one.

The lease rates are going to be high on the 3, but give it a few months or so and by the end of the year, they should be down, especially on the lease special base models. I have a feeling though the Koreans are going to drop though. Hopefully. I want to pick one up in a year or 2.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > CompactLuxuryFan 02/18/2019 at 12:48

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Some people really want that BMW crack every 3 years .

TysMagic > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 02/18/2019 at 12:49

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This feels incredibly boring for that much money. 

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > TysMagic 02/18/2019 at 12:52

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There’s nothing really super-exciting in this segment for around that $40K-50K price range new . There’s the G70 with the manual but still only the 2.0T and not the 3.3T. Or perhaps the Giulia 4 clyinder versions.

404 - User No Longer Available > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 02/18/2019 at 13:00

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So in Canada...

- Only one trim available: 330xi
- Rear h eated seats only available on a $8900 Premium Excellence pack a ge
- Can’t order the Sport Auto without the ugly-ass M-Sport package
- KORALLROT INTERIOR IS GONE .

You’re dead to me, BMW.

TysMagic > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 02/18/2019 at 13:10

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just spent 10 mins tooling around on cars.com, you’re very right - lots of bore going on. I enjoyed the base Alfa I drove, so I could probably deal with that. For mid 40s you can do the Ti at least. Though I have a soft spot for Jags so an XF with toys is also doable. 

WilliamsSW > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 02/18/2019 at 13:12

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Around me at least, the F30 330's on dealer lots almost all have Sensatec these days. Even most of the 340's do.

Although that pricing is silly, let’s face it - only the lease rates matter.

CompactLuxuryFan > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 02/18/2019 at 13:27

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Seriously. People are like “the lease should come out to $700, about t he same as my current 340” 

E92M3 > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 02/18/2019 at 13:46

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It’s too new, give it 9 months to 1 year, and they will start the lease specials. A lease is the only way I would have one. 

Party-vi > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 02/18/2019 at 13:46

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I ‘member building an F30 for something like $35k with the sport package. This is ridiculous.

For Sweden > BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo 02/18/2019 at 13:48

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Alright that color is worth fifty thousand yankee clams

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > For Sweden 02/18/2019 at 13:59

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It’s extremely similar to a certain color someone on here likes a lot

Milky > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 02/18/2019 at 14:00

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I h it up the option sheet too, got the $30 cargo net.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 02/18/2019 at 14:08

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I tried specing one. Can’t spec one I want. This is a dead car to me.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Milky 02/18/2019 at 14:53

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AND they’re selling for $5K off that price easy. No one does cheap RWD V8 power like ‘Murrica.

Milky > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 02/18/2019 at 15:09

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I mean were down to just one car now :(

*300 kind of half counts.  

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Milky 02/18/2019 at 15:12

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R umor is that the 5.7 will be replaced by a turbo v6 in 2021 for Charger, 300's fate is unknown could be discontinued . They are the last remaining sedans anyway,   The Mustang Camaro Challenger Coupes will continue to soldier on with.

Milky > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 02/18/2019 at 15:21

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Turbo v6? Im not holding my breath for an update and hell, wouldn’t even want that.

Id like it if they sent  off the 300 with a badass 6.4 or hellcat version though.

SlickRick135 > LJ909 02/18/2019 at 17:31

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Ah sounds like you need to master the art of negotiation and lay-off the Hyundai crack pipe. Someone leased one for $466 last week I believe. If you’re patience  and do your homework you can score a great deal!!

https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/new-2019-bmw-330xi-g20-466-tax-inceptions-msds-must-have-loyalty-nj-ny-pa-ct/99249

LJ909 > SlickRick135 02/18/2019 at 17:43

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Thats actually pretty damn good.

Abam > 404 - User No Longer Available 02/19/2019 at 00:03

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Without a 6MT, the “ultimate driving machine” isn’t. At least in USDM

Steve in Manhattan > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 02/19/2019 at 01:44

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You went right where I went - CPO. Just wait 24 months and your wish will be granted.

ihm96 > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 02/19/2019 at 05:19

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It’s all the companies though. Benz is doing the same thing. They made all the models nicer and in doing so upped the prices so that’s if you’re coming out of an E you’re same payment now only gets you a nice c class.

It’s the cycle of the auto business. BMWs have always been expensive it’s not like they were great budget buys back in the E21 or E30 days. If you want the best brands and want it new expect to pay what the market is.

Also if you can’t negotiate a couple grand off a new 3 series or C and it isn’t an AMG/M then you’re doing it wrong. We sell C300s all day long for several grand off especially if you have anything that qualifies for incentives

404 - User No Longer Available > Abam 02/19/2019 at 11:56

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Not really in EDM either, manuals are restricted to diesel.

ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability > Milky 02/19/2019 at 15:09

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These sound way better than the BMW too.

404 - User No Longer Available > Party-vi 02/20/2019 at 13:51

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Well yeah... I mean how else would they be able to price the Cooper Notchback  1 -series sedan?